HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/15/2016 00 Misc. Distributed at MeetingPlaza Comments received
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March 14, 2016
Sandra Belzer — sandJbeIzer@ch8i:tgr, net
I teach classes that teach among other things how to listen to words and thl
As I listened to the presentation and to questions and answers, I was very
concerned about the vagueness often used. Could -should -might -pledge -intent -
and more are words used when a hard answer may not bode well. This was
alarming to me.
Also alarming is the'poof a $750,000 short fall disappears. How does that
happen in real numbers? Was Peter robbed to pay Paul? When is this shuffi�
going to bite us and where?
From the presentation --amazing sidewalk improvements in Seattle. Is that
included in our plan? We 'could' have a skating rink --is that part of the plan? And
the amazing pictures of what we can do, one magnificent piece from here and
another from there. Are all of these feasable in this plan and are they to size or
would we have a scaled down or partial version? Are all a part of the bid? It
seems that the word 'could' was often used. How much of this is in the budget
and how much is just trickery designed to make folks think they will get more
than is actually a part of the plan?
What is the real bill with interest? If we must borrow, can we really afford this?
How do we really pay it back? Also, it would have been nice if the total annual
;n,xpenses ($400,000) would have been given instead of just physical
maintanance. It seemed a little disengenuous to ignore the utility costs.
The quarter mile I walked was from the back of the nearest parking lot. How
are people really going to need to walk? Angle parking is proven to be
dangerous. Why would we bring it back? One person stated we just do not
parallel park well, leaving too much space. So paint lines. Often folks park
according to what is in front or behind them at the time, When a large vehicle
leaves and a small one replaces it, it gives the illusion that someone did a
shoddy job of parking. I
I AM APPALLED that council voted down the motion to close the parking lot for
two weeks to see what life will really be like. What are you afraid of? It seems at
least one of you is so convinced we should follow through come hell or high
waters, that truth is undesirable. Have you no concern for the existing
businesses? That is a very sad and shameful state of affairs, a slap in the face
How much is being paid to the business owners who actually set up the LID?
How is it that the city thinks they can just steal this property or property right?
Have any of you thought this through? Without their permission and financial
settlement, this is an immoral decision. It is also one that could prove to be very
expensive.
Other deception includes a comparison to a Wenatchee Plaza. This does not
exist, as it is a warehouse. As to Walla Walla, businesses have moved because
of a lack of parking (and yes, I personally know this). It is the one thing they lack
and are vocal about.
Do you know of any plaza that has been successful without parking? You may be
able to draw folks in for events, but are they likely to return if they cannot park
within easy walking distance (honest estimates only)? Are you willing to lose
existing businesses in hopes that others will pop up and thrive? Do you really
think that'they'will come for business that only thrives during an event?
For you to make this decision without a (promised) study on the alternative plaza,
a plan that increases parking, the necessary element for success, is simply not
right. This plan deserves a study session and the people should have the final
decision. How can you possibly make a reasonable decision without studying the
alternative? Please do the right thing and look at both plans with open minds.
Strongly consider the value of the current businesses and do what is best for all.
March 12, 2016
Craig Carroll — cra[golltq4��-rp,
I'm the owner of the Spoils Center, my wife and I invested $500,00 into the
Sports Center which was retirement money. We don't have money like some of
the businesses that want the plaza. We are currently doing just fine with tile
parking the way it is. Should you move to build this it will more than likely put us
out of business . I remember the meeting that we had at Mickey s pub where
several of you including the mayor said you were against it. All we have in life is
our word and if we lose that we have nothing. Please Please no plaza , we can't
withstand the punch, please.
Amy Maib — mayrn6ib yahoo�corn
I personally am against the Plaza. I don't express my opinion all over social
media so I am glad to express it here. New businesses won't open downtown
because there won't be enough parking spaces close enough to allow for the
permit to actually open the business. Please put this to a vote for the people of
Yakima to choose.
March 11, 2016
Doug Harrington — dopehapmv.com
leave the plaza parking area as is... it is the hub • downtown parking!T!! 11111111.
At the very least vote • it... who do • think you are making these changes.
•o are supposed to be • voice... not • own
Michelle Roberson - michelljemaygta aol. com
I strongly disagree With the idea • replacing the very limited • • parking
we have downtown and replacing it with a plaza. Please leave the parking we
have alone and add more parking spaces.
Alma •, — almainvakima@gmail.com
I recently went to the eastside •I Yakima to `• • I was appalled at the
crumbling, '• and uneven sidewalks, the derelict housings and the poverty
of the people. But there were new mint condition handicap access at tile curbs of
these same sidewalks that even 1, with two healthy legs had trOUble walking on.
The inequality of infrastructure in our city is apparent biased to the wealthier
sections of town which is not why we have government. We are suppose to pool
•. tax •• and • to provide equitable living standards throughout •
communities. Why •• more • into downtown to • •u Why
would any • feel safe in the • area when there are • sleeping
on the streets and grassy areas, broken car glass on the streets where they park,
and killings in the nearby bars?
Fix the infrastructure first before you put on the lipstick on Yakima.
Janet •- —
As a citizen of 35 years in Yakima who contributes in meaningful ways to our
community ( being employed, volunteering for YSOrchestra and Chorus,
partaking in citywide events, subscribing to the YHR, being an ambassador of
Yakima when out of town and more) I've followed with interest the unfolding of
the Plaza conception. About 1 year ago I submitted a letter to the editor
suggesting that further study be done on implementing a multi level garage on
• half of the proposed site with the= entire ground level being a beautifully
integrated covered area for the plaza. Interestingly enough a local realtor and
colleagues submitted an alternate conception later that year that was akin to m
brainstorming. I question the costs for a garage but feel that people's concerns
are more about displaced parking than the plaza cost. Since attending the
meeting last Tuesday however, I was pleased to get a much better
understanding • the adjustments already made to create more parking in
surrounding areas as well as being mindful of • MORE as the need aris
from the assumed •'• th in downtown. I attended the Fresh •• Festival last
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need a crystal ball to make decisions. Take a leap of faith and be proud of how
you landed your seat on this city council - that the future of our town rests in yo
vision and backbone.
Thank you for creating this platform for us to communicate our voice to you -
clearly there wasn't time at the well attended meeting for all to speak I
Kenneth Bennett
While it would be a great addition to the city I think it is rather like adding a room
to your house while the rest of it is failing down. Make repairs first. Things like
park updates and safety come to mind. When I was small Yakima had four parks
with pools that were clean and safe, with many fewer people. How many do we
now? And what parks are safe, other than Franklin? Yet Yakima has pledged
millions in public/private soccer fields and aquatic center. Who pays for these?
And how does a low income family benefit? I am middle class, own my own
home and live comfortably, But, I do care for my fellow citizens. Let children feel
safe and have fun in their neighborhoods. Let thern be proud of their community.
Once we have these basics fixed then we can go for the additions, just like a
family on a budget. It is our money, not yours.
I have attended all but one of the meetings on this subject. My husband and I
have a winery and tasting room downtown, We wanted to be apart of the
downtown revitalization.
We have invested many dollars of our own money towards this business. Having
grown up in Yakima and knowing what fun downtown use to be I believe that the
plaza will be the new heart and focus for revitalizing our city. I ask that the
council vote to move forward with the current plaza plans and approve it. The
design by Karen Gustafson is a work of art and something the entire community
can use and be proud of. Thank you for reading my thoughts
The council needs to have the courage to move the City forward, not backward.
This includes having the vision to say yes to the Plaza. As someone who lives in
this in this community by choice, I am constantly defending where we are going.
My vote is yes - and I would encourage Mr. Lover to find out what some more of
his constituents want since I'm in his district he may find out that there are more
people than he thinks saying yes. This helps our community on so many levels
and the parking discussion - there are lots of solutions to this and I would
encourage you to research them.
Mark Barrett — tr6eripgriedagolcom
I have not gone to meetings on the New Plaza project but I have concerns. I
believe you will have overwhelming support if you solve the parking concerns.
You spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a study for the area without
c,tudying the solution for the parking. Find a solution for the parking concerns
,�on't ignore it, and I would along with many others support this.
Robert Garlow —
Tuesday, I attended the city council meeting at our local convention center. I do
not have much patience for politics but I have friends that do and they work very
hard to promote worthwhile projects and ideas in our small city of Yakima,
WA. In my three years spent here, the city has clearly began to pull out of a
(overly talked about) stagnate existence thanks in part to their activism. I
attended this meeting for two reasons;
1. To show my passive support for a locally controversial project by standing
respectfully and silently in the back of a room filled with over 400 people, holdi
a sign in my hand that simply said "yes plaza." I
2. To see Kathryn Gustafson (Gustafson Guthrie Nichol: Seattle, Washington
DC, London) and Brett Baba (Graham Baba Architects, Seattle) give their fina'
presentation to the public and our city council.
As these very talented designers finished a detailed presentation and the
meeting evolved into an inevitably long session of public commentary (52
individuals + 3 minutes each) a women sauntered into my periphery and
positioned herself adjacent to me. She held a small open spiral notebook in one
hand and shouldered a hefty messenger bag brimming with torn out loose leaf
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"You look like you're from Seattle." She said in an almost accusatory tone.
"I am not." I replied as I returned my gaze back to the speaker amplified public
commentary that she was trying to talk over.
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"Yes."
"Ok, then why do want a plaza?" she inquired, pen at the ready, seemingly
looking for some sort of quote for a piece she may have been writing.
"Respectfully, I would like to listen to the comments."
"Oh, OK. You arrogant son of a bitch." She spewed before walking towards the
door and exiting immediately.
I was left stunned, hardly offended and severely confused. Why does this
anecdote from last night matter? I am not even sure but it has encouraged this
farrogant son of a bitch' to finally put his thoughts to paper.
I have an undergraduate degree in Environmental Design (Urban Planning) and
a Master's degree in Architecture. Through this lens, the Yakima Central Plaza
project is a home run. On the contrary, I do not know a lot about running a city, I
I couldn't possibly find the energy or time to address every concern (some trivial,
some legitimate) that has been voiced, and there are more pertinent places to go
for that information. I instead, am here to offer what I am realizing is a unique
perspective. One that was never'tainted' by Yakima's past or reputation. I do not
feel my community is inferior to other city nor do I have any desire to leave. My
wife and I visited Yakima in the fall of 2012 and in less than 48 hours committed
to a minimum of 3 years here. Part of it was its centralized location in the pacific
North West. Part of it was its rural -urban charm. Part of it was the people,
strangers at the time, that talked of community and ideaJAM's focused on
making Yakima better. Some talked about a civic pride movement that had just
started up called I HEART YAKIMA. Others showed us the vibrancy of Franklin
Park and spoke of important arts organizations and bountiful farmers markets.
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and Seattle and drove a 16 •i truck with all • our possessions from Buffalo,
NY to a little apartment on Park Lane near downtown, Yakima. It was only a
matter of weeks before we attended one of those ideaJAMs that evolved into the
co-founding of the Non-profit Yakima Maker Space. We strategically located our
community space in the middle •' downtown Yakima to align with our interests in
contributing to the [re]building of downtown and of the community we are so
proud to be a part of.
You may jump to criticize that we were not raised here but be informed that we
plan to raise a family here. That three year job commitment has come and gone
and our roots here in the valley are growing deeper each day.
After last night, my feelings about politics have been reaffirmed and you will have
a hard time getting me back into that arena again. I am not sure that my silent
support inside that large room yesterday made a difference, but I hope our
decision to choose Yakima speaks volumes. We chose to move to Yakima. We
chose to invest in Yakima. We chose to stay in Yakima. And in keeping with this
trend • showing pride and recognizing •• opportunities, we have c osen to
support the • in downtown Yakima.
Please do not remain content with what Yakima is and instead embrace what
Yakima is becoming, This is only one •: many things that need • attention, but
a YES vote for a • space is not a cold shoulder to other issues. The
momentum is palpable and the Yakima Central Plaza is just one of many positive
& progressive 'next steps'to making our downtown the best place it can be.
Thank you for your time and close consideration
March 9, 2016
John Baule — ioh6�� 41mi�La�useum.om
Thank you very much for holding the • session • the • last evening —
while I am sure it was, in some ways, long and tedious to hear the repeated
reasons pro and con; I came away with a heightened appreciation of the difficult
decision each •,`, • faces. As a result, I spent much • a sleepless night
debating with myself (a scary thought, I realize). Here are some conclusions or
observations I should have articulated when I spoke • at the meeting:
First, there is absolutely no way of pleasing everyone and there is no way
anyone can absolutely assure you a plaza will, or will not, work until it is •
and open to the public. Therefore, I will try to summarize how I have concluded
the issue might be approached:
1 ) What is best for the City • Yakima overall? What has the potential to serve
all of the residents of, and visitors to, our fair community? What has the
potential to give all our residents a source of pride and feeling of well-being?
2) What decision will result in a community -wide legacy our children and
grandchildren might • in the same manner the entire community •`
from past decisions to build parks, restore the Capitol Theatre, and even
(much as it would • have •`` my choice) to build two •.•
underpasses?
3) What will meeting planners and tourists from throughout the Northwest •.
most impressed with when deciding to bring groups to this community —a
parking lot or a world -class carefully designed and carefully thought-out
central gathering space? We compete for these convention dollars.
4) Location, location, location —one of the cardinal rules for all businesses is that
location matters. The same must be true for public spaces. Would any other
location provide the same linkage between historic buildings and otherwise
create a central space?
5) The cost of a bond is exactly the same as the cost of a home mortgage —
everyone who buys a new home does it out of a desire for a better life and the
belief in the future; few calculate the total cost of the mortgage beyond
• the • payments are within the range • the household
budget. Would • let fear over the total cost of a home mortgage stop you
from the hope and optimism that cornes with buying a new home?
6) Raising private funds is not easy —this is something I do regularly and the
individuals and businesses that have stepped forward in the face of
uncertainty are moving far ahead •' their normal comfort "• Has there
been a similar financial investment from those with the resources on the "con"
•' toward • •` • the years —not just • this issue, •
to not -for -profit social service, arts, sports, and other community services?
Ultimately, all this boils down to what do you want our city to be in the
future? What is your vision for •. city in 10-20-30 years?
illo • want to lead a potential transformation? Do you want the Status •
Do you want to be remembered as community leaders who rnade decisions
based on what happened in the past, on fear of change, or on a willingness ts
• & direct change?
Amy McKinney — ag]ymgkinnev4agmai corn
The intent of the March 8 special meeting at the Convention Center was the
opportunity for the City Council and the community to learn more about the Plaz-.2
Project and ask questions. Sean Hawkins did an exceptional job as did Kathryn
Gustafson presenting every layer of design, intent of use, answered every
question ranging from shading issues, parking, public restrooms, maintenance,
event opportunities and beyond. We are disappointed that a vote wasn't called
• last night, yet a vote to close the large parking • was instead. Please •• the
•I thing, `• the incredible talent of this design, the overwhelming financial
pledges to get us there, and find the courage to vote yes for our Downtown
Plaza. With that catalyst of energy, light and an explosion of pedestrian traffic to
current and future businesses that will no doubt WANT to be a •r • the
surround Plaza, the gift of community gatherings (summertime farmer's market,
sprinkler parks, well -lighted and SAFE ways to gather for picnics, band concerts,
musicians, a place to study, a place to read and play with our children, Christmas
tree lighting), I can only continue to rattle off all of the amazing positive change
WE have continued to see in • travels around WA State, the ■ NW, Ashland,
Oregon, Portland Oregon, New • City, Washington DC, all small and major
cities in Mexico and ••
Be brave about this. Yes, a Plaza concept has been proposed and wasn't a
complete package in the past. And that's the past. All of those concerns from
surrounding neighborhoods can •- at least •r solved with a • well -
lighted center for families. For all of the complainers regarding parking last night,
the families who live RIGHT in downtown will no doubt not have concern, they'll
•- walking to/from the Plaza. Please, please consider voting unanimously for
this gift. Each of you has so much to benefit personally and professionally from
voting yes for this, we LOVE our city, we WANT to see it thrive, attract our
surrounding • and • them why It's so •
Please vote yes and • the • to -• you, • • at the
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I uture ribbon -cutting and blessing • • jewel to all • Yakima.
Terry Meloy—tqrrmeloy amall.0m
I couldn't agree with Patti Schneider's letter to you more if I had written it myself.
The city has spent 3 years trying to decide if the proposed plaza is right for
Yakima • they still don't know for sure what the answer is. For goodness Sa
either put it up for a vote of the people or drop it. To proceed should be by the
choice of the people. Let your constituents decide!
Terry Mullin ---
Opinions voiced at last night's City Council meeting about the Central Plaza
remind me of those I heard about what is now Yakima's Pacific Northwest
University of Health Sciences. Years before doctors graduated here annually, a
small group of volunteers decided to accomplish what many applauded,
questioned and • • ranged from financial and social to
cynical. Countless challenges occurred and continue, yet PNWU is
here. Yakima achieved a timeless source of pride, growth, potential and
service. Like PNWU, the Central Plaza is an opportunity for us to perpetually
• who we are. Are we committed to what is • progress? Will
challenges inherent to all communities render us stuck? Yakima's Central Plaza
is an opportunity we are privileged to contemplate. Let's honor this community,
downtown and this opportunity. Let's conscientiously build and manage the
Central Plaza, while spreading the momentum and gained insight to concomitant
community progress. Please join me in saying "YES" to the Central Plaza.
Karen Bennett — kenkarenbennettQmsn.!�om
It is disturbing to me that we are even having this discussion. We have already
promised mons to a Soccer field and private company as well as an aquatic
center. These projects are all well and good, however, who are they serving?
Only those fames with money and the ability to run their children for various
events. What happens to all of youth who have no money and/or parents who
must work and are not able to take their children? Where is there a safe and
either low or no cost place for them? +Does anyone care? Where are all these
wonderful sponsors who get all the kudos. Can't they see how very much our
little ones need a safe place to play before we cater to out-of-towners? Walk
through Miller Park, be sure to wear boots, the needles are everywhere. Would
you play there? Please spend money first on our little ones they are our future,
and we do owe it to them.
Kristina Weyer — Kr!On�a.weVer@omeiii.com
The public session last night was much appreciated. For everyone to talk wou
have lasted past dawn, I'm sure, so I'll send my thoughts in writing. I am a
resident of the City of Yakima. I
My husband and I have lived here just 3 years, moving here for his work in the
hop industry. We love it here, and feel like we discovered a hidden gem of the
northwest. From what I hear of the p.st, Yakima has had a problem of
languishing, young people leaving as soon as they can, and not wanting to stay
to raise their own families in the place they grew Lip. From my relatively short
perspective, it is on the verge of an upswing. More young families are moving
here either from elsewhere, or natives moving back. There is an excitement of
rebuilding new businesses, volunteer organizations, activities, gathering
spaces, that would make Yakima an attractive place for anyone to live, not just
those of us who can see under its rough edges the great potential that is, here.
The plaza is another one of those projects that would keep this revitalization
moving. Without it and other similar efforts, I -fear the young energy that is
starting to infuse this community will peter out, and move on. We'd love to stay
here, raise our family, and we even have dreams of starting a downtown
business, but we're not going to stay in a languishing community forever.
The main opposition seems to be around parking. The plaza team has addressed
this concern thoroughly by maintaining zero net change in the amount of parking,
as explained by Sean Hawkins last night. Any parking problems the downtown
has now will not be affected by the plaza, since the net number of spaces will be
the same. If there is a parking problem, it should be addressed as a separate
issue from the plaza. Sure, let's get a parking garage going. When I hear people
say the main issue with the plaza is parking, I'm hearing them say that 4 minutes
is too long to spend walking from their car to their destination. Is that really too
much burden on a day, a few minutes spent outdoors, a time to get some
movement into our days which are too sedentary already? Weigh that few
minutes a •. against the benefits of a public space for people to • and
mingle, a comfortable place to relax out-of-doors, and have a reason to come
downtown and support the businesses there.
Please ••. this plaza project, with the current proposed design that was
presented last night.
CITY OF YAKIMA
MAR 1 14 2016
OFFICE OF CITY COUNCIL
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129 North 2 nd St.
Yakima, Wa 98901
Attn: Mayor Avina Gutierrez
I would like to show my support for the downtown Plaza. 1 am one that believes you have to give to get
and if we don't do this now, who knows when we ever will. Yakima needs this desperately. We need to
revive the downtown. Most larger communities have "something"; Seattle has it's own neighborhoods
wherein they have their own attractions and the Pike Place Market. Portland has the "pearl district". If
we are to attract outsiders we need something!
I realize that parking is a big part of the issue but I think a very lame excuse. I suggest that close parking
be restricted to disabled and let the rest of us walk. "We" are spoiled in that we are used to parking in
front of the business we go to. "We" get irritated if we have to park "far away" in the Costco parking lot
for fear we might get some exercise. Trust me, when you go to Seattle or Portland you seldom ever get
to park close to anything.
I encourage you to vote in support of the Plaza. And for the record, I have "no skin in the game".....1 do
not have a business downtown; it will only benefit me in the global sense.
Sincerely,
Zus<an YoLngstrom
ILYA
To: Honorable Mayor and members of the Yakima City Council
From: Jeff Cutter, Interim City Manager
RE: Sister City visit
There's been some discussion about the Mayor and a Council member joining the
Sister City Association on a trip to Morelia, Michoac6n next month. Since the
discussion began, the Council member has decided not to go, however, the Mayor is
still considering the trip.
The last time a Council member went with a delegation to Morelia was Dave Edler
(mayor) about 7 or 8 years ago. Micah was invited to go on a trip, but never went due
to scheduling issues. Norm Johnson traveled to Morelia once or twice as a Council
member. Lynn Buchanan went on a couple of the very early trips. John Pucinnelli went
in 2002 when he was mayor.
Council members have occasionally gone to Morelia with the Sister City Association,
but not annually. The local association members generally travel to Morelia every year,
but not always. A delegation from Morelia comes to Yakima once every two years or
so.
The local association usually invites the mayor when a delegation from Yakima is going
to Morelia. It means a great deal to the folks in Mexico when the mayor of Yakima
accompanies the delegation. Political titles mean a great deal in Mexico, so having the
mayor as part of the Yakima delegation is considered very special to the folks in
Morelia.
Yakima delegation members are expected to cover their own airfare costs. This goes
for the Mayor and Council member(s) as well. Hotel, food, and other associated costs
incurred while in Mexico are covered by the Morelia association. The same is true
when a delegation from Morelia travels to Yakima — the Morelia folks cover their own
airfare and the local association takes care of hotel, food, etc. costs.
In the past, airfare costs for Council members have been paid out of the Council travel
account. According to the Sister City representative, airfare for the trip is approximately
$760. Below is a list of meetings currently scheduled for the delegation.
University Latina of America "UNLA" Directors and staff
Interviews with Radio, Newspapers and Social media reps.
Possible meeting with the Governor of Morelia: Silvano Aureoles
Meeting with Cardinal Alberto Suarez Inda
Meeting with the State Congress in Morelia
A special trip to Mexico City to meet with members of the Federal Congress
Meetings with Business leaders, Academic reps, including social and cultural
activities
Visits to Artisan Communities: Patzcuaro, Quiroga, Tzintzuntzan, and Zirahuer
The 2016 travel budget is $9,000 and $1,023.81 has already been spent on travel and
training this year leaving $7,976.19 in the account.
The Council needs to discuss this opportunity and decide whether it would like to send a
representative with the delegation to Morelia next month. If it is agreed that a
representative will participate, the Council will need to vote on it at its March 15 meeting
so transportation arrangements can be made.