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CITY OF YAKIMA, WASHINGTON
AUGUST 18, 1998
STUDY SESSION
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The City Council met in session on this date at 7:30 a.m., in the
Second Floor Conference Room, Police Department /Legal Center, Yakima,
Washington, Mayor John Puccinelli, presiding. Council Members
Clarence Barnett, Lynn Buchanan, John Klingele (present after
7:55 a.m.), Mary Place, and Bernard Sims present on roll call.
Council Member Henry Beauchamp absent and excused. City Manager Zais;
Assistant City Manager Rice; Chris Waarvick, Director of Public Works;
Don Toney, Fleet Maintenance Manager; Karen Allen, Customer Relations
Coordinator; Paul McMurray, Assistant City Attorney; Marketa George
Oliver, Administrative Assistant to the City Manager; and Deputy City
Clerk Skovald also present.
Study Session on the Transit Task Force Recommendations
Mayor Puccinelli called the meeting to order and noted that this study
session will be in addition to the public hearing scheduled for
September 1, 1998. Mayor Puccinelli then invited comments from staff
to be followed by comments from the Task Force.
Chris Waarvick, Public Works Director, read the list of eight
recommendations from the Transit Task Force and the additional
recommendation from staff to set a date of public hearing for
September 1, 1998. The first Taskforce Recommendation is to reduce
Dial -A -Ride eligible client base to 1% of the total population.
Mr. Waarvick reported that the Dial -A -Ride (DAR) eligible client base
is being recertified. John Haddix, Senior Project Planner, described
the process used to determine eligibility and reported that nearly all
non - current users have been eliminated from the system. Karen Allen,
Customer Relations Coordinator, provided statistics on the number of
active riders, those who are deceased, and those who are inactive.
The second Taskforce recommendation is to purchase buses with seating
to accommodate 85% of the peak ridership. Mr. Waarvick explained a
smaller Blue Bird bus has been included in the draft bids to
accommodate this Task Force recommendation. He pointed out that
specifications have been included in the information packet for both
the Blue Bird bus and a smaller version with wheel chair
accommodation. There was discussion about the size of the buses, the
material they are made with, the capacity between the Blue Bird bus
and the Eldorado National bus, and the availability of each model.
Staff will provide additional information showing the weight
differences between those two makes of buses.
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Council Member Sims requested clarification about funding.
Mr. Waarvick explained there is capital money available to modify
existing.buses to include wheel chair accessibility and to purchase
new buses. Discussion then continued about funding new buses.
There was a brief discussion about recommendation number seven to
eliminate Dial -A -Ride service on Sunday and non - transit service
holidays. Mayor $uccinelli asked Pam Scott, CEO of Paratransit, if
the DAR system is reduced, would they, as the provider, have to
increase their rate. Pam Scott indicated that she did not foresee any
significant increase in rate if the DAR program is downsized.
Mr. Waarvick reported a contract with Novaeon has been executed to
help with client eligibility, indicating'this would be very helpful
since ridership is expected to increase in 1999. Karen Allen reported
that the contractor would redevelop the City's DAR program starting
with the application process. More specific information to determine
whether applicants can utilize the fixed route system will be
required. She explained that whether they can utilize the fixed route
system depends on their degree of mobility and whether transit
services can be provided by using a wheelchair lift. Those riders are
called conditional riders. She also indicated they are anticipating
an increased demand for wheelchair accessible vehicles. By expanding
the availability of routes, more accessibility opportunities will be
provided to DAR eligible riders.
Discussion took place about the third Taskforce recommendation to
retrofit non - accessible buses with wheelchair lifts. Mr. Deatley
expressed concern about how the existing handicapped equipped route is
being utilized. He suggested that this issue be studied further. He
also suggested that the use should be determined, whether the
equipment is used or not, before all the buses are retrofitted.
Mr. Waarvick indicated that those figures are not currently available;
however, we will have to develop a plan to not limit DAR service.
Paul McMurray, Assistant City Attorney, indicated that the more
accessible the transit system is then the better ability to limit the
DAR program. From a legal perspective, he supported the idea of
retrofitting all the old buses. Ernie Berger said if the decision is
to go to smaller buses, all of them would have wheelchair lifts
installed at the factory. A decision needs to be made whether to
retrofit the buses or just go to smaller buses, not both. There was
continued discussion about this issue.
There was brief discussion about the fourth and fifth Taskforce
recommendations to increase the base fixed -route fare to $1 and Dial -
A -Ride fare to $2, and to conduct an analysis of various fare
structures for City Council consideration. The increased fares will
be considered at the September 1, 1998 Public Hearing. An analysis
will be prepared before this recommendation is considered. The sixth
Taskforce recommendation to reduce fleet size to meet federal policy
was discussed later in the meeting, and the seventh Taskforce
recommendation was discussed earlier in the meeting. The eighth
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Taskforce recommendation to accept Access Paratransit's proposal for a
one -year demonstration contract to operate Fixed - Routes 3 and 10 needs
further evaluation before a decision can be made. City Manager Zais
explained that more administrative discussion is needed about
contracting out bus routes. The issue needs to be discussed at a
later time because there are some collective bargaining implications.
The ninth recommendation was made by staff to hold a public hearing on
the Taskforce recommendations. September 1, 1998 has been set as the
date of public hearing for the City Council to consider these issues.
The public hearing is scheduled as the last item on the business
meeting agenda and will be continued at 6:00 as an early evening
meeting.
Bruce Smith, Chair of the Transit Task Force, commended the Transit
Division for doing a good job and appreciates the speed of the
evaluation of the list. He feels that retrofitting the buses is also
a good idea. } howcvcr, he dioagrccd with thc rccommcndation to buy
omallcr bunco to accomplish thc 85 perccnt pcak ridcrship Took Forcc
atio ?Although the bottom line of their recommendation is
to buy smaller buses, Mr. Smith pointed out that it was not the Task
Force's recommendation to buy smaller buses. He disagrees with buying
smaller buses as the only means to accomplish the 85% of peak
ridership Task Force recommendation. The intent of the Task Force's
recommendation is that the City evaluate each route, determine what
its peak ridership is, and then buy buses to accommodate 85% of the
peak ridership for each bus.
He then directed attention to the comparison chart in the staff
report. The tables illustrate the operating cost service items for
the heavy -duty transit buses versus the Cut -A -Way Vans. Mr. Smith
feels diesel buses should not be compared to gasoline engine buses
because it would create an inaccurate comparison. Don Toney, Fleet
Maintenance Manager, pointed out that neither the committee nor staff
is recommending gasoline engine buses. He explained that the
comparison shows the gasoline and diesel cost differences from the
examples they were able to determine. Mr. Smith stated that a direct
comparison of operating costs between Eldorado and Blue Bird buses
should be done using real operating figures. Mr. Smith then provided
copies of December 1997 Transit Performance statistics and elaborated
on the cost for fixed route versus DAR services showing it costs more
on a fixed route bus system. Council Member Sims asked Mr. Smith to
clarify the basis of the calculation for the cost per revenue hour
figure. Mr. Smith explained that the cost per revenue hour is based
on schedule hours, showing it costs more on a fixed route system.
There is more wear and tear on a fixed route system, but that is only
a portion of the costs; there are also labor costs on top of that.
Mr. Deatley directed attention to the quote for advertising on the
buses. The state -of- the -art electronic readerboard cost is $11,000,
1 As amended by the Council on September 1, 1998.
2 As further amended by the Council on September 15, 1998.
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and he feels that is too expensive. Next, Mr. Deatley recommended
that the fleet be further reduced by eliminating two more buses - one
bus from Fixed Route #3, by contracting this route out as a pilot
project. Providing a special focused route instead could eliminate
another bus from Fixed Route #10. Mr. Deatley also feels there is no
need for the number of spare buses staff has indicated. He suggested .
a standby program be developed with the local bus company: He also
urged the Council to consider privatizing the Transit system along .
with privatizing the mechanical work where the buses are repaired at
night and are always available during the day. There was an exchange
of ideas about the brake overhaul maintenance schedule, particularly
the number of miles before the brakes need to be'overhauled.
Council Member Place inquired whether 15- passenger vans would
accommodate some of the routes to meet the 85% ridership
recommendation. There was discussion about the statistical analysis
based on a 25% error rate and supported by the Taskforce and basing
the staff recommendation on ridership data instead of actual
ridership data. Discussion continued among the members of the City
Council, members of the Taskforce, and City staff as to the type of
buses to include in the comparison and the accessories included in
the price. Don Toney explained it is difficult to find the same type
of buses in use in different cities for comparison purposes
Walla, and Metro Link were suggested. Mr. Deatley suggested that the
Taskforce work with staff to assist with a cost comparison and to
develop recommendations.
Council Member Sims requested staff to follow -up on the following
issues: (1) The number of spare buses in the fleet, whether
. replacement buses can be contracted with another jurisdiction, and
whether the City's capital funding would be affected. (2) Cost
comparison information on operation and maintenance for two or three
models of several makes of buses according to passenger capacity.
After a brief discussion about the structure for bus fares, Mayor
Puccinelli reminded everyone about the public hearing scheduled for
September 1, 1998.
The meeting adjourned at 8:55 a.m.
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CITY CLERK JOHN PUCE NELLI, MAYOR
Minutes prepared by Deputy City Clerk Skova.d. An audio and video tape of this meeting is
available in the City Clerk's Office
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